Showing posts with label Peter Post. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Peter Post. Show all posts

Friday, February 28, 2025

Etiquette and the Class of 2000

We have a generation coming up now that does not know the first thing about why we have manners in our society…
Is etiquette lost on a generation of teens? 

So Prince William has a little crush on Britney Spears. Brilliant. So Britney might actually hook up with the future king of England. Awesome. So let's imagine Wills and Brit on their first dinner date. Gross. If Spears has the manners of the generation she sings and swivels to, then we're all in trouble. Just consider the meeting between the pop teen queen and the Etonian-mannered future monarch. One can vividly imagine Britney showing up to dinner in bare midriff, high-fiving Prince Charles, requesting her Dover sole be super-sized, reapplying lip gloss between courses and asking for a shot of Jaegermeister for the road.

To be fair, Spears might have the private comportment of Audrey Hepburn and the manners of Emily Post (befitting her Southern roots). But as a teen, Spears is the poster girl for a generation weaned on MTV, Jerry Springer, Adam Sandler, the Internet and mall food. A generation that has all but forgotten to address adults with respect, write thank-you notes for gifts received, greet people with a handshake and say “please” and “thank you.” It may be harsh to saddle the entire teen population with a bad-manners rap, but one needs only to see and hear the Class of 2000 to know it is a generation moving even further away – dangerously so –from decency, respect and basic rules of social conduct.

“We have a generation coming up now that does not know the first thing about why we have manners in our society,” said Noe, who answers etiquette questions for the Web site Etiquette Hell. “It's not the children’s fault. It’s the parents’. They think their children have common sense and know right from wrong. But does that child know a thank-you card needs to be written when a gift is received? Or that you hug your Aunt Gracie even though you can’t stand her perfume? That kind of training begins at home. It’s polite. It endears us to one another.”

Noe, who lives in Dallas and says she was “raised with a Bible in one hand and Emily Post in the other,” believes that today’s ill-mannered teens are a product of a generation that didn't place importance on manners. “What I'm seeing more and more of in children is actually a fallout of the free- wheeling ‘60s, the ‘Me’ generation; do it if it feels good,” she said. “They basically threw Emily Post out the window.” Noe isn’t the only etiquette expert to point a finger – rude as that may be at parents for the lack of teen manners we see today. “The parents of today aren’t confident teachers of social skills,” said Joan K. Hopper, an etiquette and protocol consultant in West Hartford, Conn., who teaches children and adults how to manage social situations.

It was rude teen behavior that helped get Hopper into the etiquette business. She remembers about six years ago when she and her husband, while dining at a New Haven, Conn.. restaurant, saw a group of well- dressed teens celebrating their prom. “All of a sudden, I noticed what deplorable manners they had at the table. All their physical beauty, at that point, was completely wiped out.” Hopper, who has taught etiquette the past five years, says parents need to emphasize manners just as much as grades and extracurricular activities such as sports and music. Even more important is resurrecting the family dinner table.

“The biggest travesty of this generation is that families don't dine together,” she said. “Dining together not only fosters good table manners but good social skills. There’s an awareness of others that comes from sitting down together.” Author and etiquette expert Judith Re agrees. “The role models we used to have years ago no longer exist,” said Re, who teaches etiquette at the Judith Re Academie in Fairfield, Conn. “We no longer have the mother or father at home with the child. We don't have the family meal. Many of the social savvy tools we have were learned at the dinner table. Now it’s islands and stools.”

While Re believes teens are not taught social graces, she also believes their generation is getting a bad rap. “I listen to some of these parents and they say, ‘Oh, they’re a teen-ager, what do you expect?’ And I think to myself, they might be a teen-ager, but they’re also a human being. A human being that age still needs to be taught. A parent, or society in general, should never stop teaching simply because someone has reached their teen-age years. Teen-agers are our future.” Re has great hope in reversing the tide of ill-mannered teens. “I absolutely have hope,” she said. “But it’s going to be a bit harder for them because of the structure of the state we're in now.”

That state is one in which the impersonal Internet rules; where “please” and “thank you” may be deemed superfluous; where manners aren’t seen as tools to get ahead and negotiate a successful life. And nothing could be more wrong, said Peter Post, co-author of “The Etiquette Advantage in Business: Personal Skills for Professional Success.” “It's not enough to have the job skills you have to have the inter personal skills, too.” said Post, the great-grandson of Emily Post. “What etiquette does for us is produce an opportunity to have better interpersonal relationships. The problem is that most people don’t have the confidence in their ability to make correct choices. So they get stuck; they get nervous, apprehensive and antsy.”

Post said we’re seeing a generation of young businesspeople now who are suffering for ignoring manners. The young business barons-to-be may know all about economics, but when they sit down to the dinner table with the president of the company they don’t know what to do, he said. “Etiquette is a way to become comfortable with that,” he said. But Peter Post, like his etiquette advice peers, believes the tide is shifting. Society, he says, is recognizing a need for better manners in teens.

“People are perceiving that there does seem to be an increased amount of rudeness and uncivil behavior in teens today. I don't have the numbers. I’m not interested in that,” he said. “But I am interested in people caring about it. They are concerned with it and want to do something about it. Without that desire to do something about it, nothing can be done.” “I do see a great hope,” said Hopper, adding that some schools are addressing the issue of manners and etiquette training. “The awareness has come back. There is a societal awareness. The other way just didn’t work. Consideration for human kindness really does work.” – Commentary By Greg Morago, for The Hartford Courant, 2000


🍽️Etiquette Enthusiast, Maura J. Graber, is the Site Editor for the Etiquipedia© Etiquette Encyclopedia 

Sunday, August 14, 2022

Dealing with Small Grossnesses

While it was nice of Jared to turn his head and avoid spraying the sampler, he still made two glaring mistakes.

Fingers vs. Forks with Shared Plates of Food

“Let's share an appetizer sampler,” you suggest. Your friends all agree enthusiastically, and soon a large plate of fried calamari, zucchini slices, and other delicious hors d'oeuvres arrives. You start to reach for a piece of calamari when, directly to your right, Jared suddenly turns away from the table and sneezes. He quickly wipes off his nose and hands, and then grabs a calamari with his fingers. You suddenly lose your appetite for good reason. While it was nice of Jared to turn his head and avoid spraying the sampler, he still made two glaring mistakes. First, he failed to excuse himself from the table to wash his hands after sneezing. Second, he used his hands to take items from the sampler plate.

Then you I realize, “I was about to take a calamari with my fingers, too— and nobody saw me picking my nose a few minutes ago.”

You resolve, from now on, to start using a fork or serving utensil whenever you're eating from a shared plate. Score another victory for consideration-based etiquette!

Double Dipping

You're hosting a party, and you decide to make a special effort by serving a big platter of shrimp along with a bowl of cocktail sauce. Everyone gathers around for the feast. The procedure is simple: grab a shrimp, dip it in the sauce, and enjoy.

Then it happens: across from you Dainty Debbie takes a bite and then, to your horror, dips the uneaten portion back into the sauce bowl so she can have a little sauce with her next bite. Several other guests look at you silently speculate: “What's he going to do?” and “Let me see if I can freshen up this plate,” you say to no one in particular. You pick up the platter and go to the kitchen, where you spoon out the area where Debbie double dipped or, better yet, replace the sauce with some you still have left because you were smart enough to buy extra.

P.S. Don't even think about giving the sauce a quick stir. While this may seem to be the easy solution, it’s worse than Debbie’s double dipping.

If you really want to take the bull by the horns, ask Debbie if she can help you in taking the platter out. When you and Debbie get to the kitchen, ask her politely to please not double dip, and explain that by doing so she’s making the shrimp unappetizing for some of the other guests: “Debbie, I'm sure you didn't even know you were doing this, but...” The key is to do this quietly and privately.— From, “Essential Manners for Men,” by Peter Post, 2003


🍽Etiquette Enthusiast, Maura J. Graber, is the Site Editor for the Etiquipedia© Etiquette Encyclopedia

Wednesday, March 2, 2022

Peter Post on Hygiene Etiquette

The easiest way to deal with the problem is to wash regularly-once a day—and use a deodorant, preferably one with little or no scent. Fresh clothes each day are another must. At the very least, give your shirt or other clothes the "sniff" test-and be honest with yourself about the results.


Hygiene in the Workplace

People who don't wash often enough, or who don't use a deodorant and consequently smell unpleasant, are hurting their opportunity to have good relationships with colleagues and negatively impacting their chances for promotion. 
The easiest way to deal with the problem is to wash regularly-once a day—and use a deodorant, preferably one with little or no scent. Fresh clothes each day are another must. At the very least, give your shirt or other clothes the “sniff” test-and be honest with yourself about the results.

The other big problem area involves scents-cologne, perfume, or scented deodorants. Splashing on the cologne or perfume might make heads turn when you walk by-but maybe for the wrong reason. In fact, many organizations now have “no-scent” policies. –Peter Post in “Essential Manners for Men,” 2003


Etiquette Enthusiast, Maura J. Graber, is the Site Editor for the Etiquipedia© Etiquette Encyclopedia

Sunday, February 27, 2022

Gent’s Bathroom and Toilet Etiquette

Though not mentioned in Peter Post’s book, there has been great discussion over the years on social media, and in news, on the correct way to hang roll of toilet paper... Whether the paper should hang down in front or hang in back of the roll. When toilet paper rolls were first patented in 1891, the drawing accompanying the patent shows how to place the toilet paper properly for the greatest ease in using the paper. It’s over the front of the role and hanging down in front. It does not hang in back or underneath.


The Toilet Seat

We now come to the all-important issue of the toilet seat. Here's the scenario: it's three in the morning, and your dream's been pretty good. But now you're awake, and you realize that you really need to go to the bathroom.

You carefully slip out of bed-woe to you if you wake her-and head into the bathroom with one thought: to get your business done and get back to bed. The problem is that now, at the ungodly hour of three A.M., you are facing a crucial etiquette challenge: remembering to put the toilet seat down.

Here are the two transgressions you can make in this befuddled state, in order of their seriousness:

TRANSGRESSION 1- You lift the toilet seat, do your business, and then pad back to bed without putting the seat back down. Maybe you just forgot. Or maybe you were feeling a little lazy. "It's only fair," you think to yourself. "I raised the seat— she can lower it." Wrong. This issue has nothing to do with division of labor. When nature calls at an ungodly hour, and a woman settles sleepily into a sitting position, she expects that seat to be down. Anything other than that is a very rude surprise. Think about it: Would you like to sit on the rim?

TRANSGRESSION 2- You forget to put the seat up before relieving yourself. Remember, it's dark, you're sleepy, and even at high noon your aim isn't always perfectly true. That seat isn't dry and clean as a whistle and your wife rises and heads to the same toilet, frankly, I can think of many other places I'd rather be.

Of course, you know the right thing to do in both situations. But merely knowing isn't enough. There are some tasks that men are absolutely required to perform in order to make life easier and more trouble free for everyone. This is one of them. Sometimes avoiding trou ble is the best reason of all for doing the right thing.

Toilet Paper

No one should have to face this sort of thing first thing in the morning. Only two or three sheets were left on the roll. No spare was in sight, and my wife was blissfully asleep.

We all know what it feels like to be in that situation. As men, we should always make a point of knowing where the spare roll of toilet paper is kept, and bringing that spare roll within arm's reach whenever the current roll starts running low. (Many households keep a spare roll nearby at all times, in a knit cover or in some other convenient container.)

Even better: when the roll actually runs out, don't rely on your wife to pop the new roll into the dispenser, but play the unsung hero and do it yourself.

Personal-Care Items

The bathroom is also the ultimate domestic litmus test for how well you and your partner respect each other's "things" and each other's privacy.

Take toothbrushes, for instance. My toothbrush is mine-it's got my own personal germs on it, and I don't want anyone else's joining them there. Your significant other may feel the same way I do. If you suddenly discover you can't find your own toothbrush, before going ahead and grabbing your wife's you should consider exactly how she's going to feel about someone else using her toothbrush. Even if you really think she won't mind, the considerate thing to do is to check anyway by asking her. A trip to an all-night drugstore or missing one night's brushing is better than time spent patching bruised feelings.

The same goes for all other personal-care products, including hair brushes, razors, lotions, and deodorants. Take the time to fully acquaint yourself with your partner's personal idiosyncrasies in these areas, and respect his or her preferences at all times. Sometimes it's better not to "share."

Privacy

The subject of bathroom privacy is more delicate and somewhat more abstract than other bathroom etiquette issues, but it's no less important. When you're living alone, you can leave the door open while you do whatever is necessary and it won't change the universe one bit. Once you begin living in a shared space, however, a closed door becomes important. This is true when you are using the bathroom yourself, and even more true when your partner is using it. A closed door is an unspoken request for privacy, and it should be honored at all times. — From Peter Post’s, “Essential Manners for Men,” 2003


Etiquette Enthusiast, Maura J. Graber, is the Site Editor for the Etiquipedia© Etiquette Encyclopedia